DISQUS

Climb to the Stars: Hosted Blog Platform Test Write-Up

  • Matthias · 5 years ago
    FYI, I added your test to my list of Swiss Blogging Resources. Thanks for all your work!
  • Poulos · 5 years ago
    Very interesting and useful But what about Blogger ? I am using it, and I discover flaws every day, but it works, still. What do you think about it ?
  • Loic · 5 years ago
    Hi Stephanie, It is too bad you have done your test exactly when one of our ublog server crashed (>no picture upload) and that you did not try TypePad in French, you can have 30 days free, let me know if you want a test account.
  • Jesus · 5 years ago
    Just a mention.... hello.com works as the photo uploading tool, so it iss not so bad. I used blogger a couple of years and, and it has improved LOTS. Titles, nice permalinks, comments, nice templates, nice admin interfacee, and picasa and hello. Easy for non-geeks.
  • Steph · 5 years ago
    Jérôme: Gosh, you're right. Believe me or not, I absolutely hadn't realized (well, remembered) that ViaBloga was not free. I was given a test account quite early on...

    I'm not sure what I would have done that if I had realized it earlier on. If I do TypePad, then I should do Radio, the LiveJournal paid version, and God knows how many countless others. Let me think about that.

    I'll modify the post to add a warning and explanation about ViaBloga, but not just right now after 5 hours sleep.
  • Jérôme · 5 years ago
    > Believe me or not, I absolutely hadn’t realized (well, remembered)
    > that ViaBloga was not free.
    I DO believe you :-)

    I just thought it is fair to split free and paying plateform since you can not really expect the same service no ?

    Besides that should you go on with paying blogware may I suggest a test on Kaywa (http://www.kaywa.ch) ? Let me or Roger know...

    And if you still have some time on the free plateform, I have heard that tooblog.fr was good, would be cool to have your opinion but is is Sunday so you might as well rest and watch TV :-)
  • julien · 5 years ago
    Jérôme: tooblog.fr is based on DotClear, as is Mon-Blog.org. So I expect them to be quite the same. One difference to note is that tooblog adds a banner on top of every blog, banner which breaks the page XHTML validity (one of the strong point of DotClear and its themes).

    And tooblog's interface, compared to DotClear's (I haven't tested mon-blog), is kludgy. There's no way to modify the templates (this does not come as a surprise, as they are probably installed in a common place for every user), and they did break the layout of every theme (viewed with Firefox) with the modifications they made.

    Another difference with mon-blog, is the community: every new blog and post is featured on the front page of tooblog. And when signing for a blog, you have to choose under wich category of their category you would be listed.

    There was also the feeling to have to sell my soul when signing up with tooblog (no, I don't want news from you by email; no, I even more don't want to receive commercial news from your partners...)
  • julien · 5 years ago
    Woops... small mistake. "you have to choose under wich category of their category" should of course read "you have to choose under wich category of their directory". Sorry.
  • flippy · 5 years ago
    Ces profs, ils ont vraiment du temps à  perdre :-)

    Joli boulot! D'accord avec toi concernant joueb, c'est très ardu à  prendre en mains. Pour 20six, je te trouve un peu dure (enfin bon, j'ai pas vraiment testé la nouvelle version). Et concernant ublog...c'est vrai que ça fait de plus en plus truc à  l'abandon.


    Mais t'as pas testé la meilleure des meilleures des solutions: les blogs staracademy. Posts censurés sans explications, pareil pour les commentaires, ce qui fait qu'ils ne s'affichent pas en direct mais des heures plus tard, impossibilité de commenter si on n'a pas de compte et, évidemment, pas de trackback, pas de possibilité de changer son layout, etc. Un vrai bonheur.
  • Stéphane · 5 years ago
    ViaBloga est gratuit pour les associations caritatives. :-)
  • Bengt · 5 years ago
    Nice reviews throughout. I agree with you on the ones i tested. I also would use Blogsome if i wasnt scared of Blognapping...I used a small service Mblog before...www.mblog.com and they stole my blog and wanted me to pay 35$ to get access to my own material....

    So since being free service you should take into account the ones behind the service...Blogger having Google as their owner will probably evolve further on...i wait for trackbacks and categories since i think those feauteres are important....especially categories...
  • Stéphane · 5 years ago
    Categories and trackbacks are so 2002...
    Keywords and fully automated backlinks are much better. :)
  • stephane · 5 years ago
    You should have a look at SquareSpace, which is high end.

    I use Viabloga for my personal blog and Squarespace for my pro blog. Both are terrific, and well above competition.
  • tehu · 5 years ago
    Même si je me doute un peu du résultat final, ce serait intéressant de recenser les plateformes qui proposent un service d'export, ou à  défaut un template d'export (à  la Blogger). Et le format de l'export : ASCII, Movable Type, RSS, Atom, XML whatever...
  • Jé. · 5 years ago
    Je me suis aussi amusé à  tester pas mal de plates-formes et systèmes de blogs.
    http://aliquid.free.fr/article.php3?id_article=35
  • marko · 5 years ago
    Hi,
    I'd like to make an adjustement to what Julien (comment #11) said about tooblog.fr as I am the one who launched it.
    Indeed Tooblog is based on Dotclear and I'm using Their templates.
    If you check the XHTML on the W3C xhtml validator, you'll see that the syntax is correct, eventhough, I'm not responsible for the fact that some users posts messages with wrong XHTML!
    Yes I'm putting some banners which are only advertisement for Tooblog.

    For now, it's not possible to make changes to the templates, like on mon-blog, but I'm thinking about a solution that will allow users to use their own templates.This might be available for the first quarter of 2005...

    Now for the comparison with mon-blog, you'll have to note that they also do have a community aspect as they do like tooblog, publish the last edited messages!
    On tooblog you are indeed asked if you'd like to receive some informations from tooblog, and only tooblog, but that's not intended for advertisement, only for information on the hosting service.

    I hope you did nevertheless appreciate the quality and speed of this platform, and hope that for the next test, climtothestars will not miss it!
    All my best
    marko
  • julien · 5 years ago
    marko: my test blog still doesn't validate, even though the errors are less important than when I first tried ;-) (there are two divs with the same "links" id, both of them are in the template). There's still the link in the profile "Je ne souhaite pas recevoir d'offres des partenaires de : .t o o b l o g !" (emphasis added)... And you're right, mon-blog added the "community thing" lately...
  • marko · 5 years ago
    Hi Julien!
    My mistake about the "profile" is now corrected, sorry about that!
    Now about the XHTML validation, I will try and correct the code!
    Thank you very much for your insights!
    marko
  • kowalski · 5 years ago
    Il y a les blogs de chez skynet aussi.
    (http://communication.skynet.be/index.html?or=me...)
  • Fred · 5 years ago
    Nous préparons des améliorations au niveau de mon-blog.org un annuaire des blogs, non accessibilité directe des blogs X etc...
  • Fred · 5 years ago
    Désolé de poster deux fois à  la suite.

    Je voudrais réagir quant au commentaire numéro 23 de tooblog.fr.

    Nous avons aussi developpé sur mon-blog.org les derniers blogs ouverts, les dernières parutions. Et j'ai fait ce soir un petit annuaire des blogs.

    Toutes les nouvelles inscriptions, doivent choisir une catégorie pour leur blog et son indexés dans l'annuaire.



    Nous allons donc grâce à  cela pouvoir également retirer les dernières parutions les blogs adultes.


    En se qui concerne la pub, nous n'avons pas de bandeaux publicitaire de notre coté, nous avons uniquement mit 3 petits liens pour 3 de nos partenaires.

    Et étant l'administrateur et président de l'association JeunZ (jeunz.com), nous disposons de leur structure pour l'hébergement et tout l'aspect technique ;-).

    Et on code au jour le jour pour améliorer les services. Si vous avez des idées venez en parler sur mon-blog.org ou ici même ;-)
  • Steph · 5 years ago
    Si je peux me permettre, je trouve que forcer à  choisir une catégorie pour l'annuaire lors de l'inscription n'est pas une bonne chose. Cocher une case "blog adulte" si c'en est un, ok, mais une des forces d'une bonne plateforme de weblogs, c'est de rendre l'inscription la plus facile possible. Devoir se catégoriser dans l'annuaire, pour certaines personnes, ça va être difficile ("euh je sais pas ce que je vais mettre sur mon blog") et ça risque d'être le pas de trop qui fait qu'ils renonceront à  l'inscription.
  • Fred · 5 years ago
    Oui mais au niveau de l'annuaire il faut bien les catégoriser non? J'ai pensé à  faire une case adulte Oui Non. Mais après comment faire l'annuaire?


    A moins que je ne fasse alors pas un annuaire par catégorie, mais uniquement une liste des TOUS les blogs inscris chronologiquement.


    Se qui me parait être une bonne idée aussi :).
  • Loic · 5 years ago
    Steph, the Ublog down for pictures upload was exactly two days, when you tested...
  • Fred · 4 years ago
    Bonne nouvelle pour les webmasters:

    http://news.mon-blog.org/index.php/2005/01/04/3...


    Vous pouvez maintenant proposer à  vos visiteurs d'ouvrir gratuitement des blogs sur mon-blog.org et vous aurez automatiquement un lien avec les mots clefs de votre choix en bas de chaque page des blogs ouverts grace à  votre site.
  • Fred · 4 years ago
    En effet ça a séduit bon nombre de webmasters... Une centaines de blogs ouverts aujourd'hui par rapport à  se que nous faisions d'habitude c'est énorme.

    Et la plateforme mon-blog.org est maintenant bien stable... En attente des blogueurs :-)
  • Shelly · 4 years ago
    I've tried a number of blogging resources too and see here that I missed some. The ones I've tried are: Blogger/BlogSpot (which I still have--5 Blogger blogs, actually), AOL (where my photoblogs are and where I have ftp space with my membership), LiveJournal (which I also kept), BlogDrive, Blog-City, modblog, MSN Spaces, DiaryLand, and Bravenet. I was going to try Xanga, but it was skewing a bit too young for my tastes. I didn't try all the things you did but was mainly interested in ease of setting up and customizing a blog with a free, online service and IMO, Blogger won hands down. I would like them to add categories, tho. And I like LJ for the Friends feature, which is why I kept it. It's like having a little bulletin board with how the comments can be in answer to each other.
  • AndWat · 4 years ago
    Thanks for the very useful writeup. A couple of comments:

    As well as being an aggregator, Bloglines is also an extremely basic free hosting platform. In fact, I use it for
    one of my blogs.

    Adding trackback to Blogger is free and easy, thanks to Haloscan. I've added it to another of my blogs.
  • sand13w · 4 years ago
    wow, pretty exhaustive list of blog sites!
  • nico · 4 years ago
    je me permets de t'intéroger en direct, un "ami à  toi" ayant fait un coup de pub pour ton article "at home" (http://biologikpolitik.over-blog.com/article-73... )... "et quel est ton point de vue sur over-blog (www.over-blog.com) ? connaissais tu cette plate-forme (créée en sept 04 (à  peu près, pour la "version" publique), environ 7000 blogs actifs (je crois) dont plus de 300 créés hier en 24h...?

    gratuit, indépendant, et les mecs ont de grosses c... enfin, ils en veulent... Un avis extérieur plus objectif ?!"

    je suis curieux :D

    t'ai linké. Trés bel article ;-)
  • nico · 4 years ago
    oups, oublié de signer... see U !
    Nico / BLP
  • Blogsome · 4 years ago
    Je voudrais vous dire que < un href="http://www.blogsome.com">Blogsome est devenu encore mieux avec beaucoup de nouveaux templates de WordPress qui sont extrêmement bien fait. Il y a toujours un accueil chez Blogsome pour les gens d'un pays fracophone. Nouse avons beaucoup des bloggers francophone. Excuse mon francais.

    Just to let you know that Blogsome has got even better with a bunch of new WordPress templates which are extremely well designed. It only takes 2 minutes to get up and running with it.
  • Fred · 4 years ago
    A quand un nouveau test car les plateformes ont pas mal évoluée depuis le dernier test ;-)
  • eve · 4 years ago
    thanks for the great info!! It helped me finally decide. (I chose blogsome)
  • Somebaudy · 4 years ago
    C'est seulement maintenant que je m'en aperçois mais tu as oublié les skynetblogs :

    http://communication.skynet.be/index.html?l1=co...
  • Mitsou · 4 years ago
    Where is Oldiblog ?
  • Alex Dunckan · 4 years ago
    Interesting blog.Thanx for minutes of enjoy!
  • dechifra · 4 years ago
    desormais sur blogspot on peut faire heberger simplement et gratuitement des photos, le code html est automatiquement generé.

    NB felicitation pour ce test et pour ces sites et blogs crés.
  • Nick · 4 years ago
    interesting review, thanx.
  • Jim · 3 years ago

    Is this all about fun-only journals? I see no mention of money from adverts. Do any of you try to make any money from your web journals?

  • luckystar · 3 years ago

    there's a new one : http://www.blogup.fr for teenagers in france. you can do lots of things with your mobile phone

  • yop · 3 years ago

    je suis sur http://www.travelblog.fr, un équivalent de skyblog et ça marche on ne peut mieux. Ceux qui ont créés ce service ajoute continuellement des fonctions et ça reste très facile. Les blogs sont thématisés avec des annuaires, ça évite de lire des trucs nuls !!! Je suis curieux de connaitre ton avis dessus. En tout cas c'est gratuit, pas comme chez loic !!!!

  • marc · 3 years ago

    Une catégorie est indispensable pour choisir un bloget ce que l'on pense y trouver.

  • badoo · 3 years ago

    Tu devrais tester c0wb0ys.org

  • Stephan Tual · 2 years ago

    May I also recommend to have a look at http://www.terapad.com/
    I'm biased of course, but it's the only blogging platform I know of that also integrates a paypal-ready shop, discussion forums, CMS, image gallery, career tools and a kitchen sink. Ok maybe not kitchen sink but you get the point :-D

  • Jesús Quintana · 2 years ago

    very good test. thank u very much

  • James · 2 years ago

    I've tried all the hosted blogging platforms and I must admit BlogSpot was very impressive but you'll never beat having your own Wordpress blog in my opinion. It gives you so much more functionality.


    http://www.aHosted.com

  • Peter Chen · 2 years ago

    This post is dated December 11th, 2004 and is outdated. With the New Blogger, (formerly Bloggr Beta) you have categories (called Labels) now, something you said is missed sorely in Blogspot, drag and drop LAYOUT which enable an non-HTML savvy blogger to easily customize their blogs without having to get into the template editor. It is very easy to set up and run. And you can get lots of tips from Blogger Tips and Tricks which have received lots of good comments from grateful bloggers. See Comments left on Blogger Tips and Tricks by grateful bloggers. Not only that, a DMOZ human editor found the blog informative and have listed it in DMOZ. See DMOZ, the most important directory, and Blogger Tips and Tricks got listed without even submitting.


    Plus the author have been honored as a BlogStar by Blogger as announced in the official Blogger blog - Blogger Buzz. See BlogStar.


    Plus Google have been extremely generous. They even allow custom domain which mean you can register your own domain and get Blogger to host it free for you. Not only that, they generously allow you to place ads, even those that compete with Google AdSense. What more can you ask? I have no hesitation in recommending Blogspot.


    Peter (Blog*Star)
    Blogger Tips and Tricks

  • Stephanie · 2 years ago

    peter: thanks for your update on the Blogger situation -- indeed, this test is quite outdated, and the blogging tool scene has changed quite a bit since I did it.


    Next time, however, I'd appreciate if you tried to town down the self-promotional tone of your message. Parts of your message read so much like PR copy that I almost sent your comment to the spamtrap.